2012 as democratic strategists warn president obama 's losing his way on his economic message, will he look to the past or future in this major speech we're expecting tomorrow? reuters reports obama is not likely to unveil new ideas to create jobs according to democrats familiar with the preparations. instead, he will make the case that he needs four more years to undo the damage left by george w. bush . joining me now senior political editor mark murray . if that is the message, james carville and a few other democrats may not be too happy.
>> well, tamron, it depends how you took that memo from james carville and stan greenberg . one of the points they were making is what barack obama and the democrats seemed to do is look forward to the future and say who has the best ideas to making the economy better to improving it in the long-term. and so i wouldn't be surprise fundamental that is what is what president obama talks about tomorrow. the only guidance we have from the campaign is he's going to contrast his vision with mitt romney 's economic vision. we've seen that before. president obama talked about his economic vision in a speech in kansas in december 2011 and before the associated press news editors in april of this year. and so i don't know if it will be anything different but what would probably be different is that mitt romney would be the focus rather than republicans and the republican ideologies president obama is talking about in the previous speeches into for clarification, the carville letter and the remarks, do you believe they're being misinterpreted, that this was not a is warning that the president's message is not resonating with middle class americans?
>> my take is you can't say the economy is making steady progress. a lot of people, despite all the economic numbers out there, still aren't necessarily feeling a lot of progress. instead of talking about any type of progress that's been made since 2009 or 2010 , you need to talk about how you are going to make things better for people, not how you already have but ow how in 20 13, 2014 , the economy will be better than it is now or in 2008 or nine.
>> let me play what the president said last night against tim pawlenty was on and his response to the case the president at least is making now.
>> it's like somebody goes to a restaurant, orders a big steak dinner, martini, all that stuff, and then just as you're sitting down, they leave. and accuse you of running up the tab.
>> nobody wants to hear him whining and complaining what somebody did or didn't do four or five years ago. he's the president. we're not going to elect him because he got a participation ribbon.
>> strong words from pawlenty. but the reality, does the message resonate with the independents? those are the people we say matter at this point, the people at the base will follow who they plan to follow here. doesn't the past at all matter or is that seen as whining to independents?
>> the past does matter. actually president obama , one of his biggest challenges is going to try to make people remember where this economy was and where this country was in 2008 and 2009 . and talking about the debt, tamron, you can't say that there is this $1 trillion deficit and not mings what the drivers were and some of the biggest drivers in the current deficit have to do with the bush tax cuts , the economic downturn and the wars in iraq and afghanistan. so that, of course, president obama had a stimulus. of course, he and his administration have spent money but the biggest drivers of that deficit are those things i just mentioned to you.
>> you hear and i describe it as a talking point because you don't just hear from pawlenty. anyone with an "r" near their name keep saying you can't bring up the notion of the years before, you have to talk about your record. how does this re-election team for the president avoid being boxed in so that that is not seen as he's just bringing up the past?
>> what you're seeing is incredible message discipline from republicans. they are basically saying that everything is occurring right now whether it's the economy or the deficit, president obama owns it. it's actually the democrats and the obama's campaign to argue that to be able to make their point that they inherited a very tough situation, that they've actually managed it and that thing are getting better. stan greenberg and james carville would say probably not to make that point but to be able to say that here is how what i'm doing right now is going to make middle class live better for you.
>> to your point, part of what you just explained would be something that a few of the heavy hitters in his party don't want him to say. obviously we know that the republicans will describe it as whining and looking back. so it will all hinge at least some of it on this big speech tomorrow. we'll see what the president has to say. thank you, mark.
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